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Daniel Greco's avatar

I want to say you're a bit too quick to dismiss the importance of something like tracking even in the one-off case (ie, it doesn't *only* matter when it comes to deciding whether to rely on someone in the future). Here's a sketchy way of putting a point that I think Craig is getting at.

It's hard/rare/unrealistic to be in a situation where (1) I'm ignorant as to whether P, (2) I know somebody else has a true belief as to whether P, but (3) I don't have good reason to think they satisfy tracking with respect to P.

Why? Given my ignorance as to whether P, if I'm going to know that somebody else (call him Richard) is right about whether P, it needs to be that Richard is right in all the epistemic possibilities open to me. And since I'm ignorant as to whether P, that will include both P-possibilities and not-P possibilities. Normal ways of getting into that spot--of being reasonably confident that whichever way it turns out, P or not-P, Richard will have gotten it right--will involve knowing that Richard satisfies tracking with respect to P. Normally, the epistemic route to thinking they're getting it right in *this* case is knowing that they *would* get it right across a range of cases; if I'm relatively ignorant about the subject matter, it's easier to first know the latter (e.g., by learning about Richard's methods), and to base my knowledge of the former on it, than to know the former via some other route.

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Kenny Easwaran's avatar

This seems to tie into ideas that I got from Jennifer Nagel's Locke lectures last year. She pointed out that many animals seem to have something like a concept of knowledge - complete with Gettier condition!

They have this concept because it's useful to know who in your environment is a knower - if you see that there's a treat being placed somewhere behind a wall, and you can see that someone else is on that side of the wall and watching, then you can follow where that person is reaching, if you want to get at the treat yourself. (This is the easy way that you can know that S knows whether p, without yourself knowing p.)

This concept is also often useful for predicting how someone else will behave - if you know that S knows where the treat is, then you also know that S getting an opportunity to go for the treat will give you an opportunity to jump in and take S's nice perch while they're off getting the treat.

Evidence that animals seem to have a Gettier condition is obtained by seeing when animals are surprised. If you see the treat go into a box, while you see the other animal watching, then you treat the other animal as a knower. If something blocks the other animal's view and reach for a minute, but then goes away, then you'll expect them to reach for the box with the treat, and be surprised if they reach for a different box. If the boxes both open to remind you where the treat is while the other animal is blocked, nothing changes. But if the treat comes out of the box and goes back in while the other animal is blocked, you now think the other animal has lost track, and are equally surprised whichever box they reach for.

Of course, she argues that they don't really have a Gettier condition - that's an even more sophisticated concept than belief, and truth, which are themselves concepts that only arise once animals have the cognitive sophistication to represent abstract contents that can be true or false, and believed or not believed. (It seems that 5 year old humans have this concept, but few if any other animals do, or younger humans.) Instead, most of these animals just have a representation of others as knowers or non-knowers, and treat various kinds of impediments as reasons to represent the other as a non-knower, without allowing them to represent the other as a false-believer or a true-but-Gettiered-believer.

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