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John Quiggin's avatar

I feel that the discussion of "rights against oneself" does more to illuminate the difficulty with the notion of rights that is relied on (roughly, some notion of natural rights).

If you view rights as being created by a state or similar body, the problem goes away. I have a right to stop you pinching my arm in that, if you do it, I can call the police and have you charged with assault. In this sense, I can't have rights against myself. At most, I can conclude that I can't trust myself and hand over my rights to a trusted third party.

Obviously, rights of this kind are not necessarily the rights we should have, and there can be conflict between different systems of rights (for example, those spelt out in international agreements, and those actually recognised by the states in question). But this still seems more coherent than thinking about natural rights in a way that gives us rights against ourselves

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Noah Birnbaum's avatar

This is a great article!

One thing I’m not so sure I agree on is that we should care about our future preferences. Our current preferences care about our future life, but I’m not so sure that should be true of those future lives’ preferences as well… Sometimes we should because this “change in preference” is actually just a deeper reflection on what we actually would want under more idealized circumstances, but I’m not sure we should actually give weight to REAL different preferences.

Shouldn’t it be in our interest for our preferences not to change? Shouldn’t we not want to do something in the future that we now hate?

This is a different article that I liked that seems related and is (imo) worth checking out:

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Kbm6QnJv9dgWsPHQP/schelling-fences-on-slippery-slopes

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